Larisa Alexandrovna and Alan Dershowitz are having it out over the use of torture, that staple of the culture of cruelty.
As in staple in your head.
Another thing about torture: aside from its immorality and its ineffectiveness at producing reliable information, there is one thing it is very good at doing.
Torture is very good at forcing people to say what you want them to say.
If your aim is to fix your intelligence around a predetermined policy, torture is your oyster.
That's why the Cheneyburton Corporation and L'il Boots love it so much.